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This is pretty much how it is:
- Wisconsin conservative James Wigderson has some carefully balanced thoughts on the silencing of Charlie Kirk by bullet.
James declines to blame one side of the political divide or the other, and decries attempts to blame anyone but the assassin.
Key appeal:
Rather than “wave the bloody shirt,” and claim the left is out to kill the political right, or vice-versa, Republicans might try, and Democrats might also try, to use civility to bring this nation back to where all sides can peacefully disagree while participating in the political process.Okay, so James does engage in a bit of ill-considered both‑sides reflexiveness, but not before calling out the primary danger.
Key retribution:
Worse, many of Kirk’s allies are intent on using his death as a weapon against the president’s political opponents. Both Trump and his henchman Stephen Miller are promising to use the full force of the government, including RICO lawsuits, to go after political opponents.
Instead of taking a step back to recognize that both Republicans and Democrats have been the victims and the perpetrators of recent political violence, Republicans leapt to point at Democrats and claimed the left is embracing violence. Political amnesia suddenly strikes on the right when the assassination of Minnesota state Rep. Melissa Hortman (D) is mentioned, or the attempted murder of Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro (D), or the attempted kidnapping of Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D).So maybe only a little overbalanced.
Not bad, James!I did dig out a recent study by the CATO institute (not your typical left-wing group).
Pay attention to the 54% figure: - Juliet at Decoding Fox News sees what might seem a paradox. Fox personalities call for calm and peace while demonizing the left, calling for revenge:
Key praise (Raymond Arroyo, among others):
And that for them, this is an RFK, an MLK moment. He is a generational leader taken down in his prime. But the message has been magnified in a way that these young men and women feel empowered, and they’re following his example.Key retribution:
The message was clear – liberals, progressives and leftists are evil extremists who hate the country. If they don’t stop criticizing the right the Trump administration would hunt them down, destroy their lives and silence their voices.
Jesse Watters even said that Charlie Kirk’s murder needed to be avenged which was hardly a message of unity.Key actuality (from Juliet):
Kirk built his career promoting Christianity while disparaging Black Americans and immigrants, Muslims and the LGBTQ+ community while telling women they’d be better off in the traditional roles of wife and mother. He seemed to especially criticize accomplished Black women.
The Turning Point USA co-founder was a divisive person who spread hatred and bigotry, but he didn’t deserve to die the way he did. One of the founding principles of the United States is the notion that anyone can freely express themselves even if their ideas are unpopular or hateful to many.More details are available in podcast form as Juliet narrates.
- In Rural Missouri, Jess Piper reacts to the reactions after the murder, contrasting those on the left with those on the right, and reviewing dramatic changes in rightist posts as information dribbles out.
Key immediate conservative reactions:
I saw vitriol thrown at the trans community for no reason and read reports in the WSJ outlining a trans suspect — without a suspect in custody.
I saw Congresswoman Nancy Mace say, “Let me say this as nice as I can: DEMOCRATS OWN THIS.” and then she went on to demand the death penalty.
Elon Musk tweeted: “If they won’t leave us in peace, then our choice is to fight or die.” and “The Left is the party of murder.”
An infamous and disgusting group, the Libs of TikTok tweeted: “ THIS IS WAR.”
Laura Loomer, a far-right advisor to Trump, tweeted: “It’s time for the Trump administration to shut down, defund, & prosecute every single Leftist organization. If Charlie Kirk dies from his injuries, his life cannot be in vain. We must shut these lunatic leftists down. Once and for all. The Left is a national security threat.”Extreme to moderate to extreme:
All of the sudden, the rhetoric changed. Literally midsentence for some. Congresswoman Nancy Mace went from demanding the death penalty to asking for prayers.
They had to pull back the words they were speaking and change tone and direction. I can’t help but think I know why. The suspect is a young white man raised in a religious home in Utah with conservative parents, steeped in gun culture.
The suspect, Tyler Robinson, who confessed to his dad and a family friend, is not trans. He is not Black. He is not an immigrant.
Robinson’s grandmother said Robinson’s family is deeply MAGA.Key both-sides
And now…now, I am seeing folks, politicians and everyday people, who were quick to judge and demand violence, asking for cooler heads “on both sides.”
I agree with cooling political tensions at the moment, but we have been cool.
They have been threatening. We have watched and read the news while they proposed civil war and executions and the death penalty. It doesn’t appear that the Left had much, if anything, to do with any of this at this point.
But we get the reprimand. Both sides, right?Since Jesse wrote this, we do seem to witness an oscillating attitude from more extreme rightists.
- Charlie Kirk is murdered.
- Revenge! Look what THEY did! War!! Exterminate the libs!
- Looks like the suspect is a conservative Republican.
- Compassion! We need prayer and understanding for the culprit.
- Maybe the suspect had liberal opinions after all.
- Get your guns! Get those libs!! Education turned him. End Education!!
- Killer may have had a trans lover!
- Kill trans folks and their supporters!! They’re responsible!
- Turns out the suspect shared an apartment with two or more others with separate bedrooms. No trans romance after all.
- Who knows what the next pendulum swing will bring.
- @whiskeywhistle98 reacts to today’s …well… everyday’s news
- I suppose after all the bumbling, the two excitedly announced arrests in the Kirk murder that turned out to be the wrong guys, the semi‑public scolding of his subordinates for his own mistakes, and his generally weird appearance, this would be inevitable.
From The Borowitz Report a surprise announcement: the incompetent FBI Director Kash Patel has been replaced by a startled deer. (Photo comparison included)
- Jason Linkins gets rightist motivation about right. The goal is a clumsy replay of other Reichstag moments.
“When certain far-right voices vow retribution in response to Kirk’s murder, they’re seizing on it as a bad-faith pretext to wage open warfare on liberals and leftists who are not guilty of any political violence at all.” – @gregsargent.bsky.social newrepublic.com/article/2004…
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 5:38 PM
The decadence is now total, and the GOP exists only to perpetuate a recursive cycle of abusing power to generate propaganda to justify further abuses of power, sending free society into a rapid downward spiral. www.offmessage.net/p/right-wing…
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler.bsky.social) September 16, 2025 at 11:36 AM
- In Letters from an American, historian Heather Cox Richardson sees the urge to blame surrounding the Charlie Kirk murder as part of increasingly shrill Republican rhetoric. The use of government to silence opposition, a narrative disconnected from objective facts, false accusations, and voting manipulation as desperation tactics in response to an increasingly hostile political environment.
Key block:
And that’s the heart of it. The radical right is frustrated because a majority continues to oppose them.Key remedy:
Unable to control the country through the machinery of democracy when it operates fairly and afraid voters will turn them out in 2026, Republicans are working to make the system even more rigged than it already is…The same analysis is now available in audio format, as Richardson narrates in podcast.
- In Canadian satire, The Beaverton makes a serious point. One primary criticism of the late Charlie Kirk is that he would have wanted anyone making that criticism fired.
Key circle:
The guy who created a list of left-wing college professors he wanted fired for their views would want us to fire anyone who pointed out who he created a to be fired list. - driftglass reviews an innocuous set of statements from Illinois Governor JB Pritzker calling for an end to political violence and the rhetoric that seems to call for it. He refers specifically to incendiary comments by Donald Trump blaming Democrats for the murder of Charlie Kirk. So conservatives in Illinois call for removing Pritzker for his “vile comments” made against Republicans.
Key denunciation (quoting State Rep. Adam Niemerg):
This is about political gain for radical Democrats and pushing a woke narrative. They can’t amount to anything to get that done, including assassinating conservatives at college campuses. - The Propaganda Professor posts his regular list of The Week In Stupid for last week.
Beginning with this:
Including this
Right-wingers, of course, were all over the stupid, proposing a statue of Kirk at the Capitol, and totally rewriting his biography with a 6-inch coat of whitewash. And they were quite dishonest and malicious in trying to pin the blame for the shooting on The Left, and falsely claiming that liberals were celebrating Charlie’s death.Ending with this:
And the Michigan courts just decided not to prosecute the state’s fraudulent “electors”, on the grounds that they believed their own lies; and since they are convinced of their innocence then by golly they must be innocent. Quick, fling open all the prison gates; all the folks inside are also saying they’re innocent. - CalicoJack in The Psy of Life takes a look at the one aspect of Charlie Kirk’s public life for which he gets praise from a wide range, his willingness to debate. Jack notes the pervasively dishonest debate tactics.
- At The Moderate Voice, David Robertson patiently explains (Well, the text seems patient) why Charlie Kirk’s opposition to affirmative action was not just morally obtuse, but blatantly false.
- In The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser, Bruce sort of discusses Charlie Kirk. Aside from a brief introduction, the post is authored entirely by Charlie Kirk himself.
- The great Ta-Nehisi Coates provides insight that is otherwise sadly rare. We can decry the tragic injustice of the murder of Charlie Kirk, and emphatically reject his toxic views.
Key proposition:
Words are not violence, nor are they powerless.Key blind spot:
And what of the writers, the thinkers, and the pundits who cannot separate the great crime of Kirk’s death from the malignancy of his public life?Key parallel:
Burying the truth of the Confederacy, rewriting its aims and ideas, and ignoring its animating words allowed for the terrorization of the Black population, the imposition of apartheid, and the destruction of democracy. The rewriting and the ignoring were done not just by Confederates, but also by putative allies for whom the reduction of Black people to serfdom was the unfortunate price of white unity. - Our favorite Earth-Bound Misfit resorts to history, and finds a direct parallel to the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel.
I sort of guessed, but this turned out to be more direct than I expected.
- FCC Chair Brendan Carr is offended by comedian Jimmy Kimmel’s monologue on right-wing accusations after Charlie Kimmel’s murder.
So Carr suggests that Kimmel is guilty of misleading the public about the killing. He threatens to suspend broadcasting licenses of ABC affiliates in retaliation. After all, we can’t have late night comedians mislead the public.
So, of course, ABC suspends Kimmel indefinitely.
Brian Beutler properly defines the issue and offers the best solution for Democrats.
This administration is obviously an assembly line of impeachable offenses, but Carr committed his high crime in an unusually flagrant way, and Republicans should have to vote on whether the First Amendment should fall to mafia tactics.
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler.bsky.social) September 18, 2025 at 7:25 AM
Free idea that literally every Democrat in Congress could and should get behind today: Impeach Brendan Carr.
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler.bsky.social) September 18, 2025 at 7:22 AM
- Tommy Christopher brings us Trumper Randy Fine, explaining how Jimmy Kimmel was suspended because he blamed MAGA for the killing of Charlie Kirk. Dana Bash stops him with a simple fact: That’s not what he said!
- Dave Columbo gets to the accuracy of what Kimmel said and how the crackdown on late night talk matters:
- News Corpse brings us Trump rejoicing at Kimmel’s suspension, and explaining that network personalities are not allowed to criticize him. And all the Fox folk sing backup harmony.
Trump complaint:
When you have a network and you have evening shows and all they do is hit Trump, that’s all they do — if you go back, I guess they haven’t had a conservative one in years, or something — when you go back and take a look, all they do is hit Trump. They’re licensed. They’re not allowed to do that.News Corpse reality:
You have to wonder under what set of rules he is playing by if disagreement, criticism, and mockery, are not allowed. Certainly not those spelled out in the Constitution.I did enjoy the Hannity rebuttal.
Sean Hannity on Jimmy Kimmel suspension:
I can’t find a single prominent conservative voice in the country that even remotely wanted, or hoped, or was pushing to get Jimmy Kimmel taken off the air.Well… diligent research by News Corpse did find one exception.
Sean Hannity, July:
Jimmy Kimmel is NEXT to go…It’s really good to see them go, and I hope I played a major part in it! - At The Onion, Donald Trump gets bored and spends the night channel surfing for new shows to cancel.
- Trump declares a new official terrorist organization, and Julian Sanchez has it about right:
Since Antifa isn’t really an “organization”, this is just carte blanche to arbitrarily declare people terrorists.
— Julian Sanchez (@normative.bsky.social) September 17, 2025 at 8:14 PM
- tengrain at Mock Paper Scissors listens as Assistant Attorney General and possible future SCOTUS nominee Todd Blanche describes a previously unsuspected limitation on freedom of speech.
- The 1st Amendment right to protest does not apply if a President finds it disturbing while he dines. The protest is a crime.
- If the protest involves more than one person, it becomes a group, and a group acting together is organized. So it is organized crime and covered by RICO statutes.
- Hackwhackers travels with Trump to Windsor, encountering a pictorial welcome and more photos during the visit.
My thought: If folks like these had bruised our president’s delicate sensibilities in the US, Mr. Blanche would have had them prosecuted as members of organized crime.
- PZ Myers briefly recounts how Trump is greeted in Wales by a television broadcast composed of a list of lies from his own mouth.
- M. Bouffant at Web of Evil captures another Trump self-own and speculates about his remaining followers.
Key non-Climate remark:
Today we’re the hottest country anywhere in the world. - Ted McLaughlin at jobsanger has some interesting numbers from Texas. Seems like a pretty even split on those who like Trump and those who don’t. That’s a little startling, considering it’s …you know… Texas.
But what’s stunning is the difference in intensity.
Those who like him are split between those who really, really like him and those who kinda think he’s sort of okay.
Those who don’t like him overwhelmingly loathe him to the absolute.
And that is in Texas.
- Attorney General Bondi threatens to go after anyone who engages in hate speech and Nan’s Notebook senses the commission of an irony.
- Master of Rant Max’s Dad lists the panoply of Trump officials who once loudly insisted they were for free speech.
Key model:
Much like the Soviets, this Russia based administration is making it up as they go along. Disagree with us, you’re evil, or mentally ill, or just annoying enough to be arrested. - Dave Dubya chronicles with a few social media posts, a conservative saying the goal out loud followed by Trump official steps, seemingly backed by MAGAFolk, to make it happen.
Key objective:
- Frances Langum remembers earlier versions of the right wing urban myth that George Soros was funding pretty much all liberal movements. In response to yet another revival of the debunked myth, she returns to a video she made fifteen long years ago. Meanwhile, Crooks&Liars demands to know where their cut has been!.
- Journalist Arturo Dominguez focuses on an issue that should not get lost in the daily shuffle of scandal, providing text and offering videos as Democrats hold a shadow hearing on rank abuses by ICE on ordinary immigrants, both legal and not, as well as those who look like they might be immigrants.
- Michael J Scott presents the evidence. The real target in attacking Venezuelan boats is not drugs.
- Right Wing Watch brings us religious right personality Tony Perkins and his panel with moments of conservative reason
Casey Harper:
But when it turns out you can just bomb terrorist ships that are called Venezuelan in the ocean uh and then you’re labeling people terrorist groups, it raises that same question about precedent for the future.Tony Perkins:
I mean, a lot to pray about. - North Carolina pastor John Pavlovitz contrasts the words of Jesus as recorded in scripture with those of MAGA Christians and seeks to explain why MAGA Evangelicals hate Peacemaking Jesus.
Key beatitude:
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.Key conflict:
But you will never find this peacemaking Jesus in the Gospel according to MAGA.
That’s because MAGA Christians despise him.
He is an inconvenience, an annoyance, a dissenting opinion they seek to silence. - Vincent at A Wayfarer’s Notes suggests a new theology, that technology has become the new God, implying that perhaps it offers more hope than the old one.
Key miracle:
At the same time, we’ve learned to rely more on our own understanding, rather that of Gods or ancient books. The more we as a society have turned away from prophets and scripture the better our world seems to be. - Infidel753 has an understandable philosophy with succinct points that, together, make for a good read.
- SilverAppleQueen has leafy, flowery plants. Restful (Or it’s late, and I’m old and sleepy).
- In Scotties Playtime, Ali Redford reminds us that it was only in 1929 that the British high court overturned a decision by Canada’s Supreme Court and ruled that, legally, women are actually people.
- Sarah Cooper has a hard time with divorce, but then her mom dives in:
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